In this episode of The Ministry Growth Show, we talk with Dr. Richard Ruhling as he shares his thoughts and insights on Healthcare vs. Medical Care.
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SPEAKERS: Zachary Leighton and Richard Ruhling
Zachary Leighton
Welcome to the ministry grow show, a podcast dedicated to helping churches and ministries grow and make more effective impacts for the kingdom of God, and an ever changing digital world. Whether you’re building and growing a gospel centered ministry or leading a church, if you want insight into the strategies, struggles, challenges and successes of other ministry leaders, you’ve come to the right place. Welcome back to the ministry growth. So today on the show, I’m going to be talking with Dr. Richard ruling. He’s the CEO of total health ministries. He’s been a board certified MD in internal medicine, he spent a year in a cardiology fellowship before teaching health science at Loma Linda University. Dr. Richard, thanks for being on the show. Good to be with you, Zack. Thank you. Yeah, can you tell us a little bit about total health ministries and what you do with that ministry and maybe share some of your past experience and background with us. So we have some context for today’s show.
Richard Ruhling
Okay, starting with background, I, after my MD I plan to be a missionary but friend said you’ll do more good if you take public health, while taking a year of master’s degree in public health. Things didn’t work out for Africa, and Nadine encouraged me to take internal medicine, cardiology and come back and teach. And that idea appealed to me. And that’s what I did, basically, and I enjoyed the experience teaching for four years at the university. So that’s a background to white, what I think are pretty good credentials better than most. And I think I understand health care and health science was what my topic was better than 99% of MDS.
Zachary Leighton
Are you still a practicing MD?
Richard Ruhling
No, I’m retired now. And yet I, I see so many people suffering when they it’s so needless, really, you know, it’s a form of bondage to have to go back to your doctor every month and get another prescription. And people could be free if they knew how to eat well live well with healthy habits. Dr. Breslow of UCLA, found that seven simple health habits were good for about an 11 year advantage as an average. But the extremes or if you broke all seven, you were about 30 years shy of what you couldn’t live if you observed all seven. And that study was done before cholesterol. It started before the report of Framingham study. So they didn’t know about cholesterol. I believe I had a teacher just two years ago die at 104. He helped surgery residents do heart surgery up till he was 95. So yeah, that’s amazing. And I I also got a Christmas card a year ago from one of my teachers who he was holding a chainsaw with a tree down. He’s 95.
Zachary Leighton
Goodness. And for our listeners who aren’t familiar with this space, can you just share? Is it possible to share a quick rundown of what those seven healthy habits are?
Richard Ruhling
Yes, in fact, I have a website and a acronym Newstart. N stands for nutrition, E for exercise, W for water, as opposed to soft drinks. sunlight, which is the source of vitamin D, which helps against breast cancer and other metabolic stuff. Temperance, which is I define as abstaining from harmful things, and moderation are balanced. And the other things you know, you can even overdo good food, air, pure air, not smoking, rest. And actually that word rest applies not just asleep. But you know, when you hurt yourself, you arrest the tissues, in a cast or by stitches. Or if you have a heart attack, they’ve rested your heart by giving you oxygen your heart doesn’t have to work as hard. So rest for a week, remember the body etc. And and then trust in nature, trust in God, mental attitudes are important as well.
Zachary Leighton
Now, back to that temperance one. I think it was the Temperance. It might have been a modern swan. Do you said staying away from dangerous things? Are you talking like dangerous substances or dirt biking?
Richard Ruhling
Both of everything that might be dangerous. But an overlooked danger that is hugely masked by go for healthcare. Ask your doctor is critically dangerous that the public is unsuspecting of First of all, medical care is not health care. The dean where I was teaching came to me one day and said you know, they’re starting to call medical care health care, like how could they ever do such a thing? You know, because it’s really a advertising ploy by pharma because it’s not healthy at all. He told me that So he was had been the chairman of the pharmacology department. And he had a PhD in pharmacology. He said that pharmaceutical drug companies never do long term studies. They don’t want to know the results of long term. It’s not good, you know, basically. And sadly, the supreme court gives them a free pass. They can’t be sued by someone, you know, hey, just a personal incident that has my name on it. My wife when we were living in Maryland, had a bladder infection went to her doctor, I was retired and he prescribed Cipro an antibiotic that I have prescribed, not my favorite, but in two or three days, she was over it stopped the medicine didn’t believe in medicine. But a few months later, she had spots under her skin. And she, I said, you need to see your doctor for that one. And he called urgently the next morning after a blood test and said she has no platelets in her blood. She needs to see a hematologist. The hematologist put her in the hospital did a bone marrow exam, then took out her spleen, but it didn’t help. He treated her with high steroids gamma globulin transfusions in and out of hospitals until she died of a stroke, okay, from an antibiotic, she took two or three days. The medical literature supports adverse drug reactions as a leading cause of death. Okay, I can quickly summarize it. In 1998, the JAMA Journal of American Medical Association, this was Tax Day, April 15, reported 106,000 deaths in hospitals from drugs properly prescribed and administered. In other words, whether an overdose wasn’t a bad prescription, it was appropriate for that condition. But some people die. And for every person that dies, 140 gets sick and see their doctor. Maybe they go to emergency room, maybe they’re admitted. Some people are admitted to long term care, nursing homes, they’re messed up for life, okay. And all of this from drugs properly prescribed. Medical care is not health care, okay? And I just can’t emphasize that I have lived well myself. I was sickly as a child and often got a penicillin shot from my dad who is a doctor. But since in college when I changed my diet, I’ve only had one prescription that I’ve filled in my lifetime. When I was on a trip and got gastroenteritis that’s diarrhea, didn’t want to stop at every gas station. So I filled a prescription. But otherwise, hey, I would warn people they can eat better and do better without medical care in the general acute care if you if you have what you think is a heart attack, see your doctor. Okay. But chronic pain can prescription come back in a month. Not a good idea.
Zachary Leighton
Okay, so if that’s if if medical care and health care not the same thing, how would you describe health care? What would that look like?
Richard Ruhling
Healthy care would be healthy habits. Okay. And Breslow of UCLA discovered in a 10 year farm. in Alameda federally funded study, he reported about an 11 year advantage on an average of people who had healthier habits. If you observed all seven compared to those who broke all seven, it was about a 30 year difference. The Big Three were smoking, drinking and obesity. And yeah, we recognize that today. But that study was even done. It started before the Framingham study on cholesterol was reported. So it didn’t even include cholesterol. You can you can do better. I had a teacher who died a couple years ago at 104. He taught surgery residents heart surgery and help them assisted in surgery until he was 95. So people people can do better. And I’m I’m at and I don’t see anything coming for me right now I have better health than when I was 35 and had headaches. And I didn’t know the cause for I later learned it was what I was eating something I was abusing overdoing too much wheat too much gluten. I didn’t think at work that way because I didn’t get a headache when I ate a cookie or cake or whole wheat sandwich or granolas. But the way it works is it’s like smoking. We all know smoking is a poison. But we don’t get sick when we smoke. We get sick when we don’t smoke and go through withdrawal. And that’s the way my headaches were we go, a person can go in and out of withdrawal based on how much of it they eat and how much sleep and exercise and other things they do. Those things help our coping with it but not completely and we can suffer. I’ll give you another example. Millions of people start the day with a brown beverage that isn’t is not very good. It actually can cause a dozen different problems. But when and when they don’t get it they get a headache. And so they can take an Excedrin or an Anacin or something with caffeine in it that gives them a boost and the headache goes away and they think that’s great. The Excedrin or Addison is great. Well, but they’re still addicted then they need to go through the withdrawal and then they won’t have any headaches at all. Oh
Zachary Leighton
yeah, well, coffee is a major, major substance that people are addicted to all throughout the country. I’m not sure what it looks like internationally. But how? You tea? Okay.
Richard Ruhling
Internationally? Yeah.
Zachary Leighton
So are you completely against medical care? You talked about acute care versus medical care when? When is it appropriate to see your doctor?
Richard Ruhling
Well, if you have a sudden, severe, you know, things that might be trouble breathing, or you think it’s your heart, chest pain and so on? Yeah, acute care is, is, I think, basically, medical care could be summarized as about half right. In fact, one of my teachers who graduated from Harvard and MD said, 50%, of what we teach you, is not right, that’s what he said at Harvard, they told him, and it’s, it really involves the treatment part of it, we can scan people blood tests, X rays, all that we know what’s going on. But the bottom line in the medical textbooks is unknown etiology, which means they don’t know really what causes it, they don’t really study diet that much to know that this can do that. And so the people don’t get true answers to the cause. They doctors given a name for it. And so they think the doctor knows, well, the doctor is clueless as to what caused it in most cases, in my opinion, or the he doesn’t want to get involved with diet, it takes time to talk to people, it doesn’t fit the economy of seeing as many patients as you can in a in a day. And so he’s you know, and and you may not, sometimes I had one person patient tell me I didn’t come for a sermon on diet, you know, so they just want a pill, a lot of people. So it’s a complex problem, that I really the media have aggravated because they’re trying to sell their sponsors on the many cases or drug companies and they don’t want to offend them either. So and a lot of what we’ve got going on now is is bad with a pandemic, pandemic, some people say, because it’s, the answers are not good, basically.
Zachary Leighton
Yeah, the last two years have been wild. What what I guess I’m interested in is how does this all related to your ministry of total health ministries? What is it? What is it that you do with all this medical care verse health care stuff in relation to my faith? Does that make sense?
Richard Ruhling
Good, yes, it does make sense. And the Bible says it’s more blessed to give than receive and you feel good when you’re giving people help. Okay, if you help people is psychologically strong. And I find in retirement from medicine, there’s a lot more to life than prescription drugs, you know, but even now, I warn as many people as I can about what they do, if they’re afraid of, you know, this, this virus thing that came along a couple years ago, they said it’s 1%, fatality? Well, it might be of the average public. But if you’re on prescription drugs already, I think that’s why Italy had such a high report and so many comorbidity situations with, you know, heart disease, diabetes, they’re taking drugs for these other conditions. And then to add in, something else is supposed to help them when it can affect their immune system. England reported the truth of the matter, was last April and May 97%, of about 10,000 people were fully vaccinated. And what does that tell you? Boy, I don’t want to get vaccinated. Sorry, I hope this doesn’t offend anybody or get us off the air. I have to be careful when I say this on YouTube, because I lost my channel for a while. But you know, it’s it is a damn noble thing that they mandate something that has been so poorly studied, no, no long term studies at all. And it’s supposed to alter our immune system. They say it doesn’t, but it does. And Undertaker’s are reporting blood clots and other things. And when people die suddenly and many of them are young. I saw yesterday, someone died early of cancer just after after a brief bout. Well, cancers are being found by pathologist more frequently on pap smears and then melanoma and so on, since this whole thing came along, and so I would rather go to prison than to get what they want to give me. And now the truth is told that it does not prevent infection does not prevent transmission to someone else, does not prevent severity, or death. So why in the world are we doing this to our systems? When if we were to eat better. And by the way, the British Medical Journal reported 73% Less severity in people who eat a vegan type of diet. These were healthcare workers, over 500 of them that that got COVID less severe if they ate a vegan type of diet and I was one time working emergency room, and I did not eat any supper when I noticed I was getting sick, runny nose, scratchy throat, achy felt cold, it was the flu, okay, simple virus, but no fever. I wonder what I could do to get a fever because fever kills the virus. And I soaked in a hot tub for about 20 minutes. And as the water was running up, my fever was 102 and a half, I got my I gave myself a fever, poured cold water front and back, because it will double the white blood count did not eat any supper, I wanted those white cells to be hungry to kill the germs. And I thought I was better and 11 o’clock, and I took another hot bath finished with cold in the morning. No symptoms I was well I aborted the whole thing early with that treatment, and I didn’t even have vitamin C with me. So you know it can you can do it. The body system is great. God gave us a wonderful system. But we’re gonna mess it up with what medical science is going to do. I don’t think not for me, basically.
Zachary Leighton
So So if I’ve got a fever, let it run high and kill off the virus as quickly as possible.
Richard Ruhling
I had they taught us in medical school that brain damage occurs around 178. And I’ve never even seen above 105. You know, 105 is common everyday stuff in emergency room maybe. But take fluids, put something cold on your head that keep your head cool. But you know, keep a cool head is better physically as well as a good euphemism to say. And you’ll be alright. Yeah, just fasting fasting can help overcome it to basically don’t we overdo too much food, especially this time of year?
Zachary Leighton
Yeah. So again, back to that that question on total health ministries, what you guys do as a ministry? Or are there other books and resources that you’re writing and putting out around this stuff to help people understand how to be healthy and how it pertains to their faith? Or does that look like
Richard Ruhling
I haven’t got a website with three words that everybody wants health, happiness destiny.com. And if they’ve go there, there’s a book or DVD tab, they can watch. Eight minutes of a really good DVD. It’s, it includes Cleveland clinic’s cardiologist, Dr. Esselstyn telling how you can reverse most conditions without prescription drugs, which I’m telling you is a leading cause of death and illness. And for us, but you know, a $10 donation, they can get some really good materials on the health happiness destiny.com on the book DVD tab. Thank you very much for that opportunity.
Zachary Leighton
Yeah, of course. Okay, cool. So talk to me about the, you’ve touched on a little bit the pharmaceutical industry and how there’s least a bit of corruption and greedy behavior going on within that industry. I don’t think it’s far fetched to imagine that. What have you seen in the last couple of years with this virus that’s been going around and the pharmaceutical companies and what they’re doing in that space?
Richard Ruhling
Well, last March, I attended some alumni meetings at my medical school in California. And as I was driving back, I had a tire wheel problem called triple eight. The tow truck man told me he lost five family members after the shot. I have a neighbor two doors down who buried his brother after the shot. We have a caregiver for an 84 year old lady who’s got diabetes had a stroke in the nursing home. She says they’re killing me take me please, to my wife. They were friends. So we have somebody in our home, and a caregiver who helps. Has a friend of Carolina that lost three family members after the shot. The shot is I believe, we haven’t seen the end of it at all, I believe people’s immune system, even if they’re okay, right now, they’re unchallenged when they get another virus. They don’t know what they’re going to do. And people with cancer are I think dying faster. And I think we will be seeing lots of trouble in the coming year as well. This is not over at all, by any means. And tell God I’m sorry if I got the shot. Please help me and helped me to understand what I can do because and we’ve talked about some of the those things, I would just say, it’s going to be trouble for people who’ve had a shot, I think or more than one.
Zachary Leighton
And if people have had the shot or gone through that process of is theirs. What, what can they do?
Richard Ruhling
Well, I, I’m thinking of the British Medical Journal that reported the vegan diet is 73%, less severity that happens to be the original diet and page one or two of the Bible in Genesis, things that are good. And I heard this was two or three decades ago, a cardiologist say, if it grows out of the ground, it’s okay, you know, but, you know, things that plant Blace is good. Somehow it’s designed for us, and that they have higher vitamins, minerals, and so on fiber, etc. animal foods have no fiber that tend to be constipation. And there’s disease factors and animals because, you know, the greedy farmers, they can feed manure to their cows to get more nitrogen and protein, they give them antibiotics and hormones to fatten them up fast, and then ship them off the market before they get disease, especially with chickens that way too, you know, but we had a lady that clean house for us. This was for nearly 45 years ago, she said, she worked on a chicken plant, and she said I’ll never eat a chicken. You know, well, what did she know that we don’t? I don’t know. But at least my opinion is somehow the original diet that God gave in the Bible is best for us, I think. And I’m doing well. Pretty much. We get occasional eggs and occasional yogurt or something. But it’s not like I grew up with finishing off ice cream containers, etc.
Zachary Leighton
Yeah, so you’re a proponent of a vegan diet?
Richard Ruhling
Yeah, I would say vegetarian and vegan. I believe that there is disease factors I want to talk to one of my teachers have physiologists who had a big library and he’d read most of those books. He was a he was a genius. And he said, the more eggs the more virus you know, basically, we get, we don’t know what it all does, the body’s supposed to react and deal with these things. But overall, I think man’s original diet and the Bible is better off, meat was added to shorten man’s life. After Noah came off the ark, they had seven clean animals on there, and they didn’t have any plant food to eat, and man’s life shortened dramatically. According to the Bible history, some of your listeners may not be sure about Bible, they may think this is not scientific, it’s old. It’s whatever whatever. I just like to challenge them that there is a reason why it’s the best number one seller throughout all history. And if they happen to have a copy in their library anywhere, I’d say a 45 is an example of how I think got the previous I’m sorry, the chapter 46 Verse 10, says God knows the end from the beginning. And he proved it in the previous chapter, in my opinion. Isaiah 45, God named Cyrus more than 100 years before he was born and told how he would conquer Babylon. When two river gates were left open, Cyrus diverted the Euphrates River into a reservoir that he created, and marched in at night under the wall of Babylon to conquer it with no loss of life. And when he saw the evidence that he has named 100 years before he was born, from ancient writings taken from Jerusalem when Babylon conquered Jerusalem, he was so impressed with God that He freed Israel, let them return to their homeland, and even pay their way. So my point is, does God know the end? I think so. And I want to be on his side. And I believe that if people will take a look, there’s enough reason to say that we’re coming to serious times in America and America is going down it. I don’t. My perspective is we’ve done so many stupid things. And we’re just just this year they turned things around with abortion type of thing, but Egypt threw babies in the river. We’ve thrown 63 million in the trash, but in the previous chapters, Osiris Isaiah 44, verse 24, he says, I formed you in the womb well do we really want to mess up what God is forming? You know this I think God punished Egypt badly for for that and I believe we’re gonna get punishment this coming year. With with what’s coming.
Zachary Leighton
unpack that a little bit. What is What do you think that looks like?
Richard Ruhling
Okay, well, Christ, thank you for having Trinity. Christ said, when he was asked about the end of the world to study the book of Daniel, and Daniel saints chapter has a political cartoon of a ram and a goat conflict. The goat flies from the west to stop a militant Muslim RAM. It says in the text in verse 20, that the horns on the ram are the kings of Media and Persia, but those areas are now Iraq. And I ran a couple decades ago before 911. I predicted war with Iraq before 911. And I just say, based on that vision, and and yes, and we’re gonna go to war against Iran, the question is, we don’t want war with Iran. Iraq was bad, no weapons of mass destruction, we left men and equipment, big, bad, bad situation. So what makes us go to war? Well, the Bible also in the last chapter of Zechariah, and that’s the last book before Malikai, which is the last book of the Old Testament. So it’s just old, New Testament before there’s Malika and then Zechariah the page just before that, Zechariah 14 says they have the Lord comes, which is the time period, and nations will be gathered against Jerusalem to battle houses, rifled women rape have to sit he goes into captivity. Well, it’s interesting that President Erwan of Turkey has already appealed for 57 Muslim nations to siege Israel, so that he is asking for what Zechariah is calling for 2500 years ago, okay, I’m confident from my timelines, and a book that I’ve written called mega quake 2023 that it will be next spring. And so I’d say, go to go to that website, by the way that I mentioned before health, happiness and destiny, and they can get some information about it and can order it or I have another there’s even more information on this topic at the bridegroom. combs.wordpress.com the first two articles are about this, the bridegroom comes.wordpress.com. And I’m happy to send them a book if they’re interested. But anyway, take a look at it, see what you think, and maybe too much to answer. But we can answer as much as we have time for right now. If you want.
Zachary Leighton
Yeah, I’d like to continue unpacking this. Going back to the vegan diet, how would you? How would you, if someone was to push back and say, and reference X? What was it x 10? verses nine through 16. It looks like we’re Peter sees a vision of the animals coming down. He says I’ve never eaten anything in pure unclean. And the voice of God speaks and says, Do not call anything impure that God has made clean, how do you how would you if someone is to rebuttal or argue for a non vegan diet? What would you say about that?
Richard Ruhling
Good question, and you show your knowledge of the Bible better than most okay. But that really was a specific instance, to show Peter that don’t call the Gentiles unclean. There was a knock at that. And he had to go to see Cornelius, who was a Gentile, and don’t call him unclean, but he ministered to him and helped him and he was converted. And here’s the reference is Isaiah 66, verse 17. God is going to judge people it says, They that sanctify themselves and purify themselves in the gardens behind one tree in the midst, eating swines flesh and the abomination. Well, in Zachariah, Fourth Chapter, there are two trees, there’s olive trees, they put oil into the lampstands. So a tree represents I think, the Old and New Testament. And here is a reference to one tree. It is really when it says eating swine slash, the tree in the New Testament in the middle is by the way, it says in the midst so in the middle of the New Testament happens to be that chapter and acts were Peter is asked to eat what is unclean, but it would really applying to the Gentiles who had been considered unclean. But don’t, don’t want to cut those people out, go ahead and share with them they’re not really unclean as what the vision that Peter had was saying, but to but to eat swine flesh, which was forbidden for a health reason in the Old Testament is still a health principle, okay? We aren’t made holy by necessarily what we eat. But if we defile ourself by disease type stuff, not really good, but in our advantage, and to complain that we, you know, to claim sanctification, we’re sanctified and we’re holy, but what we’re doing the wrong kind of stuff. If we’re not paying attention to Scripture, I think there are a lot of people think Jesus is going to save me. But how is he going to do it if we don’t read what he says, you know, so that’s my perspective on this basically. And I think that it’s God. Christ spent more time healing than preaching and but he said go and sin no more. We tend to bring in our culture, we tend to bring disease on us. The the final common pathway for diseases, our mouth, what we put into our mouths, smoking, drinking, sex, you know, eating, you can even they will overdo good food, etc. So I would just say that, that’s a quick overview.
Zachary Leighton
Yeah. Well, and I absolutely agree that the references in the Lord saying that, that the Gentiles are not unclean that he would want, he wanted them to go and reach them as well. But verse 10, says he became hungry and wanted to wanted something to eat. So it is both right, it’s in reference to Gentiles verse Jews, and we’re gonna reach both and Peter is hungry, and he wants to eat something and God’s saying, Hey, this is clean to eat, because I’ve made it clean. So it’s both and
Richard Ruhling
well, I see your perspective if you want to believe that. But when we get to Christ statement and Matthew 17, verse 11, Eliezer, Elijah is supposed to come and restore all things. And in the previous chapter, Matthew 16, verse 12, he said, Beware of the leaven of the Pharisees, meaning they’ve their doctrines. We have preachers today that have levied the bread made it light and easy. You can eat anything you want, it’s okay. But when you come to Elijah, who’s still supposed to restore all things before the end of time, we find him coming in Molokai for four and five, remember the law of Moses with the statutes and judgments? Behold, I send you Elijah. Well, if Elijah comes in the context of statutes and judgments from the law of Moses, those things are still for our benefit and best good times of ignorance God links and people have done, ignorantly a lot of times, and they may die of disease, I don’t know. But they can, God can still save their soul. But if we really are subject to our appetites, and we just can’t quit eating, or smoking, or drinking or whatever, God, I don’t think he’s Lord of our life. If he hasn’t saved or if he isn’t, Lord, He’s Lord and Savior together. And I think we need to whatever you eat or drink or whatever you do, do all to God’s glory. And the swine isn’t part of it. And my perspective.
Zachary Leighton
Yeah. One and that’s, I think, if you were to argue what I just argued, I don’t think people would say that. It’s okay to just consume and consume and do whatever you want. And there’s no ramifications for any of it. That, that. Yeah, that’s that’s not I don’t think what, what I was pushing back on. I want to take a moment to take a break for our sponsor, but when we come back, we’ll continue our discussions with Dr. Richard ruling. Are you looking to grow your ministry but don’t have the money and marketing knowledge to make that happen? There’s good news. Google offers an advertising grant to churches and ministries that is worth $10,000 per month. This means that if your ministry is a 501 C three nonprofit, you are eligible to receive $120,000 per year in free advertising dollars. This allows you to place ads at the top of Google search results pages, and drive 1000s of visitors to your ministry website every month. Our sponsor, click nonprofit helps your ministry acquire this Google Ad grant manages your Google ads to ensure you get the most out of the grain and schedule a free consultation and click nonprofit.com. To learn more about how this grant can help your specific ministry mentioned the ministry growth so when you sign up to get 20% off your first three months. Welcome back to the ministry growth show. We’ve been talking with Dr. Richard ruling. Richard, as we get back into the conversation, I want to change topics a little bit and discuss wedding parables with you a topic, a topic that we discussed offline and that we’ve created some questions for can you give us a little bit of a rundown of what you want to discuss in that space?
Richard Ruhling
Okay, I think the wedding parables all show that we don’t understand them. In the first wedding parable of Matthew 22 The king sends his servants to bid people to a wedding feast, and they are scorned and ridiculed of the king’s invitation is taught badly up, though remnant have their city burned actually. You In as a result, that’s King James Version, okay. And we’re, we think we’re the remnant, we’re at the end of time, basically, I believe that we just like some people look at Jerusalem as a fulfillment of the burning of the city, but that there was no wedding at that time. I believe we’re looking for a wedding parable in our time to be fulfilled. And I happen to come from my background is Seventh Day Adventist, and I’m not trying to get anybody to join the church, I think that they’re going to have their city burned, because they have done some bad stuff that the founder of that school did not want drugs pharmacology taught there. I think she was straight. But the they want an AMA accreditation, and they hijacked her school to teach pharmacology. And I think when that earthquake comes in San Francisco, more damage occurred from broken gas lines and fires than from the earthquake. And she, she had a vision of an earthquake at Loma Linda, in which she said many lives were blotted out houses, buildings, great and small, were falling to the ground, etc. It seemed the judgment they had come. And she mentioned San Francisco, two days later, was destroyed in an earthquake, and some people think she was just reporting San Francisco’s earthquake. Well, I don’t think so. She cited Zephaniah one eight, that God would punish the king’s children in Zephaniah one, eight. And that admin is believed that the king’s children, I believe, they’re going to have trouble. And I’m so this is not about denominations, I believe, as swallow truth, follow Christ as best you know, and he’s outside knocking as the church of most Western churches today. I don’t think he’s getting in because preachers like a smooth talk sermon, and they’re good sermons, but I don’t think we’re looking at all of the things in the wedding. Parables are an example we don’t understand them, right. And some people think they’re going to be snatched to heaven suddenly, you know, quick snatch, rapture, they call it, but people are not, if we’re going to live by and this is, by the way, Matthew four, four and Luke four, four is emphasized at both, both of those places, Matthew four for Luke four, four says, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word of God. Well, if you’re living by every word, the wedding parables are more than just readiness be ready. It’s not and he’s going to snatch us out of the out of the sky asleep. Because they apply to the wider intervals they watch. Watch means be awake, when you ordinarily wouldn’t be awake, you know, when you’re sleeping. Gregorio is the Greek word. And we can’t be awake every night. But the wedding parables have clues for when, okay, Passover was the only night in the year that they were supposed to be awake. They were to pray that God would pass over them in judgment that wouldn’t fall on them. And Christ as His disciples watch with me, can you watch one hour? Okay, well, they couldn’t. And they lost a big opportunity. In my opinion, I think they, they failed him. And that last night, they, you know, James, and John wanted to be on the left and right of their, the, his kingdom. And he said, Can you drink the cup, and the last night, he gives them the cup, he said they could, but later when they were supposed to watch and pray, they couldn’t drink the cup, you know, basically. So long, long story short, they failed him. They could have been with him, too. I think if they had been with him in the trial, they could have said, No, he’s not going to destroy the temple. He’s talking about his body come out Sunday morning, you’ll see. And if they had done that they could have there would have been witnesses, the Jews could not have lied. And Pentecost could have been the whole nation, getting the Holy Spirit. And I believe that the world would be much better off with a law observant world than lawlessness as we’re seeing developed in our place, because we’ve rejected God’s Word in this country.
Zachary Leighton
Hmm. But, I mean, you could argue that the point was, he knew that they would fail because we would all fail that and it needed to happen, right, like Christ had to die. And, and rise again, to pay for sin ultimately. And so that had to happen.
Richard Ruhling
Well, he would have died, he would have died, but they would have come out Sunday morning after he died to see the resurrection and then they couldn’t lie. And so Pentecost could have been repentance for the nation. Okay, um, let me go on out, say a little more about the wedding parables. We don’t understand them. In the Matthew 25th Chapter. They’re asleep with their lights out, as we are today. And in Luke’s wedding parable. Luke, Peter asked is this parable for us or for all that shows they didn’t understand? In Christ said it’s for the blessing as a servant who is so doing when he comes. We’re living at a time when he comes in if we’re so doing, and it’s not Just let me say that God got an ignorant bride at Sinai. They worship the calf. 40 days later, Israel said, Oh, whatever the Lord says we’ll do you know, Well, God is not looking for a passive bride for his son. Okay, we have to take an active role. The rule of first use is an example. I was taught this in high school in Bible class, that where a word or phrase is first found and often has a meaning or context for n times, because Christ is Alpha Omega, first and last, he’s the word so that the first place you find a word may have not always but some, sometimes it has special insights. And so when you find a cry at midnight, it goes back to Egypt when there was a cry at midnight, okay, and a sudden unlooked for calamity, death fell on the Egyptians, I believe we will see in our time a sudden unlooked for calamity, earthquake, okay, because the earthquake is what initiates the day of the Lord. And when the Muslims are celebrating their mosque in Jerusalem from taking it in Zechariah, 14, the Lord will roar from Jerusalem, the heavens and earth will shake it says, and Joel 316, they will get out of there. But it will be a time of judgment, then. But that earthquake brings judgment to the US San Andreas fault to the medical school where I think their buildings are going to be on the ground for having hijacked the school what which was supposed to be for missionary training, and for natural remedies. And so medical care being a leading cause of death at Venice have lost it important in my my perspective. And I think that it’s just Christians, we’ve all made mistakes, times of ignorance, God winks, but in times of Judgment, when that earthquake brings judgment, we gotta repent and go by what every word of God is, miss, we understand it. And I’d say we have a little chance now to study and get ready. So that’s why the perspective of my book, I think, is helpful mega quake 2023. And it’s available on my websites, which I gave you earlier, since the break, maybe I’ll just mention them again. Two places, health happiness destiny.com. And on the book DVD tab, is they can see the books, watch the DVD a little bit, see what it’s a nice package there, or the bridegroom comes, which is the wedding parable, the bridegroom comes that wordpress.com has also got articles on the earthquake that’s coming, and opportunity to get the book if you want the bridegroom comes.wordpress.com. Thanks.
Zachary Leighton
And so are you. Are you saying that this earthquake will usher in the beginning of the end times?
Richard Ruhling
Yes, I am. It’s the it’s not a judgement.
Zachary Leighton
It’s not just a judgment on the United States. It’s a no, this is
Richard Ruhling
time. And this says in First Peter 417, the judgment begins at the house of God. Well, in a sense, this country has been God’s people. The people that came here originally, were fleeing the papacy in the old world, for freedom of worship, they didn’t want the burning at the stake and all that they risked their lives and little boats and from Indians or starvation to come to this country. And God bless them with a constitution, like the Bible in the sense that God wanted the 10 commandments. You’re your own boss, don’t do these things. You know, you monitor yourself. Well, and that’s what the Constitution was. The sovereign citizen was to monitor himself. But some of those freedoms came to local government, and from local government. Some of those went to the federal it was very small, the federal government had very little power. Today, everything is upside down, and they’re telling us everything to do from Washington. We’ve lost our freedoms, and they’re going faster still. And to mandate a shot that is not good for you is death. They’re going to get it okay. And by the way, the the closing parables of Christ in Matthew, 24, and five, all have a link to a 911 provision. We all know 911 was a big deal. But numbers nine, verse 10, and 11 is a special provision for Passover. A month later, as the days of Noah, the flood came with Passover timing, but in the second spring month, and when when five virgins missed the wedding, again, Christ said, Watch, you don’t understand, because of the Kingdom of Heavens, like a man traveling to a far country. Will Travel was also a reason for a late Passover. If they took a long trip and couldn’t get back for Passover to Jerusalem. They were to keep it a month later when they got when they got back. And so those were provisions that are clued in Christ closing parables and The last six can all be tied together. After the Noah’s parable, it says Then shall to be in the field. Then mean same time, you know and after the evil servant begins to smite, then it’s like 10 virgins. You put all those together and I believe the earthquake is coming will be in may not in April when first Passover comes. So, and I believe that delight Noah had contact with a dead body. He buried Methuselah Methuselah meant his name meant when he dies that will come. He was the oldest man that ever lived because God wasn’t ready to send the the flood Noah wasn’t ready with the Ark yet. But when he died a month, there was a delay of one month till second, second month Passover for Noah. Well, I think the contact was a dead body in numbers nine, verse 10, and 11 will be replayed in America, we’re all going to have contact somebody we know who’s dead. From you know what the shot that our great government is mandating to kill us all, when, when they should have done better research and FDA warned us two years ago, they posted a warning online. And I can put that on in an article I have. It’s or I can give it to you where people can go to the it’s fda.gov/media. And if you search that on Google with blocking on the it’s download. Yeah, it’s download October 2020. And also type in fda.gov. Forward slash media, you can you can read on page 16 D unbrace. syndrome, neuritis, encephalitis, strokes. Anaphylaxis. myocarditis are harder as they didn’t call a heart attack. They called acute myocardial infarction, thrombosis and embolism. Women are bleeding 24% of women who’ve had the shot have miscarriages. You know, this is this is crazy. And yet they’re gonna blame it on COVID Oh, they have COVID You better get the shot. This is total damnable. I’m concerned. Anyway. So that’s just it and in, in a big nutshell, or more than that, but I just say, we are facing time of judgment. And a lot of it fits together if we understand it. Well.
Zachary Leighton
Yeah, well, I mean, I’m, I’m with you on the vaccine stuff. The the fact that all of the sudden we’re having sudden adult death syndrome of a thing that didn’t exist a year ago. And it’s killing 1000s and 1000s of adults doesn’t make sense, other than there’s something that’s causing that. And wouldn’t it be a coincidence that it’s something that came out of the last two years? So I’m with you on there, but back to the endtime stuff? You reference Matthew 24, if someone was to push back a little bit and say, Okay, you’re setting a date, Matthew 2436. But about that day or hour, no one knows not even the angels in heaven or the sun, but only the Father. How would you? How would you argue that in light of that verse,
Richard Ruhling
good question. Thank you very much. First of all, the word no is a Edo Greek word meaning be aware, consider perceive, understand, he was saying you don’t understand. And then, but it’s like the days of Noah, or you don’t understand, but it’s like a man traveling to a foreign country. If you understand the provisions for a foreign country, or the days of Noah that it was second Passover, you can tie them together and and you might not know which day Monday Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, but now today, I can I can Google the new moon and when when the 14th or 15th day is next May is may five may one happens to be the day that Noah entered the ark. Well, I think we may see a warning sign then i About a month ago I saw a video online of a tsunami that hit the island in Indonesia area. About a quarter of a million people die dry they were drowned. But animals who were not caged up not tied down what they headed to higher ground they somehow since trouble was coming and the animals were spared. Animals got into the ark also, I wouldn’t be surprised if Mayday when it’s sometimes a that Mayday is a distress call. We might see animals heading to higher ground and behaving funny. It might be in the news, I don’t know. But I believe may five Friday night will be huge as for America with the earthquake that is coming to initiate the end time. Not just for America, for the whole world but those who understand the meaning of it get judged first. Okay, in a sense that it’s so the the earthquake is The knock for the wedding. Okay? Because the only other place where Christ knocks in the New Testament is Revelation 320. Every evangelical Christian knows that I stand at the door and knock. You know, when we think General Jesus always knocking at our door well, that revelation is also how things end. And that church was lukewarm was materialism, and keeping Christ outside knocking, it ended in an earthquake in 63, ad type and Anna type. The Bible says what is has been already what is to come as men already God summons each event back and is turned. That’s the new English Bible translation of Ecclesiastes 315. I like it. And I believe that we will see replay of the earthquake for later to see in 63 ad next spring, and it will hit and preachers who do not say let’s watch and pray as Christ did you know? They should? They should. They are you can’t know you won’t know you never know, that goes against Amos three, seven, God won’t do anything without revealing it. So if your interpretation of you don’t know, he was talking to disciples who didn’t need to know, Okay, what about us? Okay. Paul, Paul understood that the disciples when Christ said, let me say this and x one, six, the disciples said, Are you going to restore the kingdom to Israel at this time? Christ said, it’s not for you to know the times and seasons. But Paul takes that same phrase, he puts himself into the end time and he says, and of the times and seasons, brother, you have no need that I write for, you know, perfectly? Well, I think I do, but I don’t think most people do. Okay. I’m saying that we can know we should know those appointed times. Those were the Passover was the enforced by a statute forever. Well, did God forget the Christ was going to die on a cross and they’d all be nailed to the cross. And we don’t need to keep those things. No. I think Christ instituted the Lord’s Supper in place of Passover. And we can keep the Passover that way. We don’t have to kill a lamb. The lamb already died. Christ did okay. He was the Lamb. And we can be thankful for him and appreciate his body, his bread, his blood, you know, in celebration of that event, and then watch and pray that night. That’s how I would say we should do it. And if he knocks with an earthquake, we are ready to start the the wedding feast, the Feast of Unleavened Bread, which is a week long. For one week, Israelites when they left Egypt. They ate unleavened bread. Well, Christ said beware of the leaven of the Pharisees, meaning their teachings, and they have leavened the bread. And I’ve given you an example with this, you know, the, the feast days, the God calls a my feast or not Jewish Feast, he’s my feasts. And those are his appointed times appointments. And I think we will see the end time, just like he said, In Colossians, 126, and seven, they are shadows of things to come. And we will see them come on those times. I have seen already to two times in the past 25 years, significant events that occurred right on those times.
Zachary Leighton
Now, what would you say to somebody who might bring up Matthew 2414 that says in this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come so it nations and the whole world meaning ethnos or language groups, most missions, organizations will say that there’s more than 3000 language groups that still need to be reached with the gospel? How? How do we interpret that in light of potential, and time coming? Next spring?
Richard Ruhling
Very good. I love you know, you have a better than average knowledge and you’re trying to represent your people out in the audience who may push back and so on. I like your phraseology, and you’re gentle. But let me explain. First of all, the this gospel of the kingdom and by the way, gospel of the kingdom is something different than just Jesus is gonna save you, okay? Kingdom means dominion of a king, how does he have dominion through his laws, etc. And it will be presented to all the world then the end will come. And the next next sentence is when you see the abomination standing where it ought not, okay. And I believe 2015 had abominations standing where they ought not. Okay. Most Christians would understand. Leviticus 18 Verse 22, to lie mankind with mankind as with womankind is an abomination. That’s Bible, okay. And it was standing we’re not not in the Supreme Court, new definition of marriage. Bad idea, bad idea. Okay. And another example is the Pope. He represents the harlot in Revelation. Since 17, verse two and three riding the beast of New World Order, that’s the world his papal supremacy again, but he was standing where he ought not in Congress, how did he get there? You know, we’re not to make any laws respecting the establishment of religion, but he’s there pushing his his little Laudato Si about Sunday. Well, there’s not a whole lot about Sunday in the Bible, okay? In fact, it doesn’t mention Sunday at all. But first day of the week is mentioned eight times in the New Testament first day, six of those are the resurrection, but nothing to say about Well, you better go to church on the first day. Okay. So the pulpit actually is, is endorsing the Sunday law of Constantine, when they made everybody go to go to church, you know, it’s gonna come around to that, where the the New World Order beast in Revelation 13, verse 14 to 18, it says, it involves false worship. And there’s nothing in in the idea we have as Christians as Oh, well. The disciples all decided to keep Sunday instead of Sabbath Sabbath. Okay, the Jewish day, the Sabbath is Jewish, we’re going to keep Sunday out of the resurrection. Well, there’s only one reference to first day of the week in the book of Acts. And there are nine references the Sabbath. Three of them say every Sabbath, every Sabbath, every Sabbath, Paul was in the synagogue, reasoning, and so on. So how do we get Sunday out of that, you know, it’s really the little horn power in Daniel 925, that taught to change times and seasons. It changed it changed the calendar, Gregorian calendar is from the Pope, etc, Pope Gregory, and we, we have Sunday instead of Sabbath, you know? Well, I don’t, you know, I believe that we will see in times a significant ignorance, God has answered many prayers of many people in with with, you know, but in what types of judgment come we gotta go by the best we know, and in my opinion, it will not be about the church of Rome. And it will not, you know, Roman, by the way, is the city of seven hills in Revelation 17, verse nine, and it’s a mother of a Mother of Harlots and Abominations. What Rome teaches, so I just say, hey, we can do better. And the pope blessing the guy that thought God made him that way. And that well looks God made you that way. That’s okay. I don’t think God doesn’t make us to be homosexual. You know, we we can get sidetracked and trapped in lifestyles, if we choose them. But I just saw a few days ago, a guy that was transgendered 15 2015 or something like that. But now he’s he said, I made a big mistake. It life has been miserable. I’m going back to long term effects, these experiments that we’re doing medically are a bad idea, basically.
Zachary Leighton
Oh, yeah. Yeah, for sure. One, you mentioned, you mentioned the abomination is that not speaking of something more specific, the abomination of desolation?
Richard Ruhling
Good. And the early disciples understood that to be wrong, though. And when the Roman army came around 66 ad, were under sestertius. They fled the city and were spared the siege by Titus, who came three and a half years later. Okay. And so Rome, Roman army, we did see that also in 2015, when the US did a gun grab in Texas, was Jade Helm, helm stands for Homeland eradication of local militants. And they shouldn’t be grabbing guns. It’s a second amendment right? You know, basically. So I think and when I say Rome, the leaders of the Pentagon historically have been members of secret societies, for the church, the they know who they are, and Opus Dei, Knights of Columbus, Knights of Malta, and so on. That’s how they get to be leadership. And there’s more to this. When John J. F. Kennedy spoke, he said the idea of a secret society in a free society like we have in America is repugnant to him. He was dead a week later. Okay. And I just say, you know, we need freedom. And we don’t need secret societies either. But it’s the Jesuits are behind this. If you look up Jesuit it’s Society of Jesus. But that’s Georgetown University that’s been filling the DC offices for over 200 years as a Jesuit university. So a lot of non elected offices and Washington’s in the Oval Office. Trump had was up to his ears and advisors. No, but no wonder the media don’t like him. It’s because he doesn’t fit the New World Order agenda going through the UN. He doesn’t he wants America great. And, you know, Trump’s got, you know, he’s made mistakes, he’s made mistakes about the vaccine and so on his advisors are, are, okay. So anyway, I just say it’s not over. I personally, you may find this interesting, but I believe in Bible prophecy, Trump will be there again. And it might it won’t wait till 2024 It it starts with God declares the end from the beginning. It says in Isaiah 4610, in the book of beginnings, Abraham was tested over his willingness to sacrifice his son Isaac. Okay. And Muslims, by the way, say it was Ishmael that was sacrificed. Well, what’s unfolding in the Middle East will show and prove that it’s the Bible is the true Holy Book, because Muslims will be neutralized with the when the when Muslims take the city of Jerusalem, the RAM and goat, and will will will take it out. But I gotta get back to Isaac. Genesis 22nd Chapter. Isaac was spared by the sacrifice of a ram caught in a bush. George Bush got the first horn. Okay. And then you come to Daniel, there are two horns on that, and the kings of median Persia, Iraq and Iran. Iran will be caught, I think, by Donald Trump. And how do I say that? Well, it’s a great horn on the goat, the great horn, they used to use horns to make trumpets, they cut off a horn and blow through it a shofar to make a trumpet. And the great horn is the great Trump, okay, in my opinion, because the other horns are named on the Rams, the kings of median Persia. Bush was the president who got the first horn, I think we will see it when soon after, Muslims take Jerusalem, and it will not wait to an election. That is where they’re taking stealing the votes or whatever. I watched the election last time. And all of a sudden they quit counting the votes. And Trump was ahead in he was winning. But when they restarted all of a sudden he was losing what how did that happen? Well, Obama sang said that the Democrats had a way of dealing with that in they want to disallow that now, but I think what Obama Obama was saying is they could fix the elections. Anyhow, that’s, that’s enough for that.
Zachary Leighton
In light of all this. Right, okay, so say there’s an earthquake next spring. So there’s in the end of the End of Times, that all comes true. What should our response be as Christians, we know that Christ comes again, we know that there will be an end of the age. But how should we respond and be living in light of that, whether it happens or not, in response to Matthew 2819, Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey all that I’ve commanded you? And surely I’m with you always, to the end of the age, right? So it doesn’t say, Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, unless things are bad, Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, unless it’s the end times Therefore go and make disciples unless you’re sick. It just says, Therefore go and make disciples of all nations. Right? So in light of that verse, whether there is or is not a coming or a ushering in of the end of the End Times, how should we respond as Christians as believers as followers of Christ?
Richard Ruhling
Thank you. Good question. And let me take you back to the wedding parables which all show a sudden need of a sudden event of a bad nature and look for calamity, the earthquake, but an immediate reaction in Luke’s wedding parable. When I come and knock, you must open immediately. slight delay, meant foolish virgins. They got there too late. And in the wedding parable of Matthew 22. When the king came in, he saw a man without a wedding garment. wedding garments were provided by the host, and he could have slipped into a bathroom and changed in just two or three minutes, but it’s too late. Okay. The point is that if we really want to be in the wedding, and be high reward type stuff with a wedding parables, and I see that let me just say this, in Luke 12, verse 36, and seven it says, Blessed are those servants whom his lord finds them Watching when he comes he will gird himself make them sit down to eat and serve them as last supper imagery, Passover imagery. But when Christ said in verse when when Peter said, Are you to giving this parable to us or to everyone? Christ said, bless it as a servant whom is Lord find so doing when he comes, he will make him ruler over all that he has. Well, my name is ruling. Okay. I want to know how that happens. And I think I understand it, okay. And it’s not just about me, it’s really about 144,000 who get to follow Christ or wherever he goes in eternity in the in the book of Revelation. It says they are virgins. I know. By the way, a guy who does a prophecy club in Kansas, who thinks that the 144,000 are male children, less than one year of age, they haven’t learned to to lie, yet they have no guile in their mouth. Well, I don’t think so. I think the virgins are the wise virgins to get into the wedding. The Bible explains itself. It’s not some child one year of age, that doesn’t lie. I don’t think there’s that many Jewish children. You know, God goes by our choices, and we have to be old enough to choose him as Christ went at age 12. He chose to be the sacrifice that he saw happening in Jerusalem, at Passover. So my my perspective is that we need to understand the wedding parables and be ready to make our own covenant with Christ. When the rule of first use I mentioned earlier in this telecast, or whatever, the I rule of first use Alpha and Omega first and last Christ is that way. And if we go to where a word is phrase first found, Christ in the wedding parable, Luke 1235 says, have your lights burning? Well, in the covenant that God made with Abraham, as a burning lamp, God went between the pieces of the sacrifice. Historically, most men went between and they’d say, May I be torn apart by this, like the sacrifice if I don’t keep my part of the bargain, but only God went between only God has the obligation, Abraham could have taken her leaving, but he went for it, he wanted the land. And, but but for God, this, God was proactive in initiating the covenant and when, when Christ says, have your lights burning, we have to be proactive, he’s not going to speak out of sky, we’re not going to get to Sinai and hear him come down and talk to us. It’s it’s we go for it. And he will meet it just like when Israel went ready to was a good ready to go into the Promised Land. Let me back up at the Red Sea, the sea parted and they walked through easy. At Jordan River, they had to walk into the water, before it parted. We gotta go for it. In my opinion, we got to believe that he’s gonna stand behind us. And he’s wanting an active bride, not a passive bride like a sign, oh, we’ll do it. Whatever the Lord says will do. And they worship the calf. 40 days later, God is not looking for an immature bride. He’s wanting a mature bride, person 144,000, whom he can anoint with power, who can take down the kingdoms of this world like the stone kingdom, in Daniel to ground those kingdoms the fall when Egypt was when they walked out of Egypt, Egypt was finished, because of Moses. And God is looking for people who can sing the song of Moses and the lamb, a song of their experience. And I can just say, we have some big things coming. It says in Revelation 11, six, that they have the power to shut the heavens and turn water to blood. Well, those are the first two trumpets of revelation eight, verses six and seven, or seven and eight. Okay. And so we can do that we will bring the plagues, and they will blame us. But just like Ahab blamed Elijah. Oh, are you? He the troubles Israel? Yeah, well, we will. But God, God, God can stand up for us. And he’s got a plan that we aren’t looking at right now. And it’s not a rapture to heaven. But it’s with us in the fire. And we can get there. Not really literally fire but it’s, it will be It takes faith. Just like in Noah’s day it took faith to get in that art, you know, and, and the whole world just about walked away from it. They didn’t have faith in God. Well, do we have faith in God? We trust His Word. I’m seeing an answer that if you read the chapters of the New Covenant promise, have in writing his law in our hearts, both in Jeremiah 31 And Ezekiel 36. We’re going to have an experience that we’re not thinking about right now. It says I will take you from among the heathen, gather you out of all nations bring you into your own land, then I will sprinkle clean water, give you a new heart, put my spirit in you cause you to walk in my statutes and judgments and you’ll dwell on the land that I gave your father’s not about America, not here. So that’s there are stuff ahead that we haven’t looked at but need to consider. So What you’re saying, how should we live between now and then study and get ready as Abraham Lincoln said, our chance will come.
Zachary Leighton
Well, thank you, Dr. Richard, I really appreciate you being on the show. This has been an interesting conversation. And we so appreciate you coming on and sharing your thoughts and insights and experience. If people want to learn more about what you’re doing, and maybe read some of your books, how can they get a hold of you?
Richard Ruhling
Well, thank you. My email is my name with an H r u h, Li, N G seven at Yahoo. Okay. And I just have a website that I would refer them to two of them. One is the bridegroom comes, that’s the great news, in and out of judgment, if Jack God is going to judge this country, but he also came as bridegroom to Egypt, and he took them to a covenant and later said, I’m married to you. And we can have that experience, I believe, if we know our role, and so the bridegroom comes.wordpress.com, or health, happiness destiny.com With at the book page, DVD page, thank you so much. I appreciate and esteem you as having a knowledge above most people and most Christians and appreciate the opportunity of sharing. Living by every word is more than we’ve been looking at. And but the wedding parables have a lot for us to consider. And thank you so much for the opportunity. God bless you and your ministry.
Zachary Leighton
Yeah, thank you. Appreciate it. Can I pray for you as we wrap up,
Richard Ruhling
please do. Thank you.
Zachary Leighton
For those thank you for Dr. Richard ruling. I pray that you would continue to go before Him in His ministry lead and guide him and that you would bless him and and all that he’s doing father that he would be obedient to you and your ways and and, yeah, we love you, Lord, thank You that we get to be a part of what you’re doing that we get to be a part of this redemptive work and redemptive story, Lord, thank you for your son. Your death and resurrection. Making a way for us to know you and walk with you and abide in you and, and be a part of this redemptive story. In Jesus name. Amen. Hallelujah. Amen. Dr. Richard, thanks so much for being on the show. And yeah, we’ll be in touch
Richard Ruhling
my privilege and glad to read there are other topics we could talk about another time, but thank you, and may God bless you too, likewise. Amen. Thanks.
